class 25, 5184, 25034
D5184, 5184, 25034

Photograph courtesy A Forster
Its 8pm on August 19th 1978 at Haymarket depot as 25034 awaits attention. The locomotive is about two months out of a major repair at Glasgow Works.

The twenty three year eight month career of D5184/25034 was similar to that of D5183/25033 with allocations to depots on the London Midland, Eastern & Scottish Regions. Despite a lengthy period out of service during 1983/84 25034 would be the elder statesmen of the Class for a period during 1986.

Built: BR Darlington Locomotive Works.
Boiler equipped.
Dual brake fitted.
Active service life = No.6 longest Class 25 in service.

Allocations

D5184 was new to Toton (18A) on May 4th 1963. Further transfers were:

February 1964 to Wath (41C) on loan.
May 1964 to Toton (16A).
September 1964 to Cricklewood (14B).
January 1965 to London Midland (Midland) Lines.
June 1965 to Leicester Division (D15).
July 1965 to London Midland (Midland) Lines.
June 1968 to Nottingham Division (D16).
July 1969 to London Division (D01).
August 1972 to Holbeck (55A).
October 1972 to Tinsley (41A).
February 1975 to Haymarket.
August 1975 to Eastfield.
May 1977 to Haymarket.
February 1981 to Bescot.
July 1985 to Crewe.
Withdrawn December 22nd 1986 (the 301st Class 25 to be withdrawn).

Renumbered January 1974.

After withdrawal 25034 was stored at Basford Hall until moved to Vic Berry, Leicester on May 29th 1987. By the second week of October 1987 it had been placed in the stack. During the first week of March 1988 25034 was broken up.

Works Visits.

Works visits (records incomplete).

Noted Crewe Works May 1968.
Noted Crewe Works February & March 1970.
Noted Derby Works November 1973.
Noted Glasgow Works April - June 1978 (dual brake equipment fitted & repaint).
Noted Glasgow Works December 1979 - January 1980 (N4 repairs).
Noted Derby Works October 1983 - May 1984 (N1, N4 & N6 repairs).

Highlights

1963
The frames for D5184 were laid down at Darlington during January 1963. D5184 was boiler equipped and would be part of a large fleet to be allocated to depots on the Midland mainline out of St Pancras, to be used alongside the Type 4 fleet to eradicate steam along this route.

D5184 was released from Darlington to Gateshead on May 4th, allocated to Toton (18A). D5184 would be one of many allocated to the Midland area sheds to eradicate steam northwards from St Pancras, in conjunction with the BRCW Type 2's from Smethwick and the BR/Sulzer Type 4's (the Peak's) coming out of Derby & Crewe. Their arrival greatly assisted in easing the problems caused by the severe winter of 1962/63 which only released its icy grip on the country in March.

1964
During February D5184 was transferred to Wath (41C), in May it returned to Toton, by September it had moved south to Cricklewood (14B).

On the Scarborough – York line driver training during November normally used local power, but a stranger from the LMR on 6th was D5184.

1965
D5184 moved to the Midland Lines (ML) during January and briefly to the Leicester Division (D15) in June quickly followed by a transfer back to the Midland Lines (ML) in July.

1968
Crewe Works received a visit from D5184 in May. During June it was transferred to the Nottingham Division (D16).

1969
5184 was noted at Norwich on June 14th working a special from the Midland Region.

During July 5183 - 5185 transfered to London Division (D01).

An enterprising venture by Luton Town football club was the use of chartered specials to their away games. These specials usually comprised twelve coaches including a buffet car, October 18th saw two specials work to Brighton, 5183 & 5184 worked their train throughout whilst 5213 & 7651 were replaced at Acton by 6552 & 6555.

1970
5184 spent February & March at Derby Works.

1972
On February 26th 1972 a Euston - Liverpool football excursion was worked out & back (?) by 5184 & 7528.

On May 31st 5184 & 5221 were noted working a Royal Train at Helsby.

An inter-regional transfer took place in August with 5183 - 5185 moving to Leeds Holbeck (55A). Their stay here was brief, by October all three were at Tinsley (41A).

1973
5184 was at Derby Works during November.

1974
The 08.10 Birmingham New Street - Cardiff on March 16th 1974 was worked by 25034 & 25290. On August 31st 1974 the 07.18 Sheffield - Skegness was worked by 25034.

1975
To assist the Scottish Region 25033 - 25035 moved to Haymarket in February. Because they were boiler equipped they soon found use on many of the internal Scottish Region passenger workings. On May 28th 25034 was noted working the 17.10 Edinburgh - Newcastle, whilst on July 10th 1975 25034 worked the 22.45 Carstairs - Edinburgh.

25034 moved to Eastfield during August.

1977
25034 returned to Haymarket during May.

The light is fading fast on the evening of June 26th 1977 as 25034 is seen heading a long line of locomotives at Millerhill Depot. 25034 appears ready for a visit to the workshops, though it will not be until the spring of 1978 when this occurs.

On July 25th 1977 the 21.10 Bristol Temple Meads - Edinburgh was worked forward from Carstairs by 25034. On October 12th 1977 the 12.55 Glasgow Queen Street - Oban was worked by 25034.

1978
25034 underwent a heavy repair at Glasgow between late March & June, including the fitting of dual braking equipment.

The Doncaster - Muir of Ord grain train, frequently a ScR Class 40 was noted north of Newcastle behind 25034 & 20219 on August 26th.

1979
On January 27th 1979 the 17.35 Glasgow Queen Street - Aberdeen was worked by 25034 & 27034.

Travelers on February 16th’s 22.15 Euston – Glasgow were already running over two hours late when 47185 failed at Dumfries. 25034 was on hand and 25078 was added at Kilmarnock but as neither could provide heat the four and a half hour late arrival at Glasgow must have been some sort of blessing.

25034 at Haymarket depot at about 8am on April 29th 1979.
Photograph courtesy A Forster.

Fuel restrictions were imposed from May 11th due to the world crisis affecting oil supplies, these restrictions would affect most of British Rail leading to the running of shorter trains and the curtailment of certain non-essential services. One excursion that did run was the 'Buchan Line' SRPS railtour on May 12th from Falkirk to Aberdeen for a slow run down the Fraserburgh branch. 40061 was used for the mainline running whilst 25034/35 were used on the branch. The Kincardine Junction – Oakley and Dyce Junction – Fraserburgh were to close that week making this the last train over those sections.

Photograph courtesy Stew Robertson

As mentioned above 25035 (leading) & 25034 visited Fraserburgh on May 11th 1979 with a railtour and are seen here awaiting departure from Fraserburgh.

On September 4th 1979 the 22.45 Carstairs - Edinburgh was worked by 25034. On October 21st 1979 the 20.35 Glasgow Queen Street - Dundee was worked by 25034 and on December 8th 1979 25034 worked the 13.39 Dundee - Glasgow Queen Street.

25034 was at Glasgow for generator (N4) repairs from December to January.

1980
On March 11th 1980 the 21.40 Edinburgh - Carstairs was worked by 25034. On April 7th 1980 an extra 17.15 Dundee - Perth was worked by 25034. On October 8th 1980 25034 worked the 07.40 Edinburgh - Glasgow Queen Street and the 17.10 Glasgow Queen Street - Edinburgh. Finally on December 8th 1980 the 13.39 Dundee - Glasgow Queen Street was worked by 25034.

1981
After six years on the Scottish Region 25034 headed south to Bescot in February, which brought 25032/33/34 together for the first time.

Photograph courtesy Tony Sayer
Just prior to 25034's move south to Bescot, it visited Glasgow Works and is seen here on Valentine's Day 1981. Clearly visible are the hinged ventilators indicating the locomotive is dual-braked.

25034 passed through Glasgow Works in 1981 receiving dual braking equipment, as revealed by the fitting of hinged ventilators to one side. The cab front is a little tidier with the removal of a lamp iron and two brackets and Glasgow have placed the number on the bodyside. Seen here at Northampton with 25208 June 23rd 1981.
Photograph courtesy Gary Thornton.
Typical of over twenty years service on the WCML is this view of 25034 & 25208 passing through Northampton on June 23rd 1981. Class 25's would continue to visit Willesden right to the end of their working lives on BR, their duties slowly disappearing or being taken over by Class 31's.
Photograph courtesy Gary Thornton.

On August 3rd (?) 1981 the 17.40 Euston - Shrewsbury worked forward from Wolverhampton with 25034.

1982
On January 6th 1982 the 07.45 Manchester Victoria - Bangor and the diagrammed return working were handled by 25034.

25034 was in charge of the 18.15 Birmingham - Norwich on February 10th.

On March 20th 1982 an Edinburgh - Stafford excursion was worked forward from Crewe, via Stoke on Trent by 25034 & 25234.

25034 covered a Manchester Victoria - Bangor - Manchester Victoria - Llandudno Junction passenger diagram on May 22nd. After a Wigan – Liverpool diesel multiple unit became a non-starter on June 10th, 25034 was commandeered to pilot the service.

During August the 12.35 Northfleet – Toton merry-go-round saw 25202 & 25206 (10th) and 25034 & 25079 (17th).

The 07.20 Blackpool North - Manchester Victoria was worked by 25034 on December 29th 1982.

1983
On January 3rd 1983 the 08.01 Crewe - Cardiff and the next day's 05.35 Cardiff - Crewe were worked by 25034.

Between late August 1983 & mid June 1984 25034 was out of service at Derby Works with fire damage.

During 1983 & 1984 25034 spent a considerable amount of time in Derby Works undergoing an unclassified repair. It is seen here on April 25th 1984, its remarkable that it survived such a long stay at Derby so late in the career of the Class 25s. Durings its lengthy stay at Derby Works at least 25 other Class 25s were retired.
Photograph courtesy Ian Hammond.

1984
The 13.35 Sunday’s only Crewe – Cardiff featured 25034 on June 24th.

Photograph courtesy Mark Bennett
A scene repeated many times at Shrewsbury as a pair of Class 25's, led by 25034 prepare to head west to Aberystwyth, complete with 'Rat Roadshow' headboard. 1984 was the last year that the Class 25's would be diagrammed for the Cambrian line passenger services. In 1985 WR Class 37's were used with less than a handful of workings being handled by the Class 25's.

On September 11th a defective coupling caused a Wolverton – Hornsey empty stock working to split in two at Cheddington. Tring loop was used to stable the front portion of the train whilst 25034 was sent out to retrieve the rear part. The following weekend (15th) 25034 & 25058 worked the 07.55 Euston - Aberystwyth forward from Wolverhampton, returning with the 14.00 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury. This was the last scheduled passenger working for the Class 25's over the Cambrian route, next year the Class 37's would be in charge and although the Class 25's would show up from time to time they were not diagrammed for the passenger workings.

Photograph courtesy Alan Baylis
A few devoted enthusiasts mourn the last diagrammed Cambrian Class 25 working as it waits to depart from Aberystwyth behind 25034 & the charmed 25058 on September 15th 1984. Identified are Alan Baylis, John Cowburn (P51), Mr Cramlington, Phill T, Mark B and Brendan Killgallon. The Class 25s had arrived on the 07.35 Euston - Aberystwyth from Wolverhampton and would depart with the 14.00 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury.

On the last day of the month the 11.40 Manchester – Gatwick behind 47331 became completely derailed approaching Dorridge station, car transporter wagons on an adjacent track prevented the derailing vehicles from tipping completely over. The Bescot crane arrived behind 25298, the re-railing train behind 25034 and a little later the Toton crane appeared behind 45017.

Travellers on October 12th's 19.30 Bangor - Manchester were hauled by 25034 throughout. A Mossend bound freight on October 27th was noted behind 37243 & 25034.

A long distance enthusiast's excursion on November 16th started out with 25034 & 25057 on the St Pancras - Derby leg of the 'Grampian Highland' two day railtour to Inverness. This tour used a total of seventeen locomotives, perhaps the most interesting of which was 46026 from Derby to Newcastle, this working proved to be its last.

1985
RTR's 'The Cornishman', an overnight trip from St Pancras to Plymouth on January 25th/26th had 25034 & 25192 diagrammed to Leicester, but 25192 failed at Luton, 31154 assisted from Bedford. The following day the return leg from Leicester was worked by 25034 & 25237.

On February 23rd 25034 & 25044 handled an enthusiast special between St Pancras and Stafford (see view below), with the train routed over the north to west curve at Lichfield between High & Low levels. 45048 took over for the run to Attenborough, buses taking the participants for a tour of Toton. The Class 25’s returned the tour to St Pancras, for a total of 408 passenger miles.

Photograph courtesy Nick Ross

25034 & 25044 wait at Stafford on February 23rd 1985 after working the first leg of a railtour from St Pancras bound for the Nottingham area.

March found 25034 yet again on railtour duty, this time with 25224 on March 9th's RTR's 'Lancashire Linx' working between Southport & Birmingham New Street.

The Liverpool portion of the 18.15 Glasgow – Machester was hauled from Preston by 25034 on May 17th. A week later (26th) this machine was noted at Oxford on the afternoon Longbridge – Cowley freight.

During July 25034 was transferred to Crewe.

Despite the shrinking empire of the Class 25’s many still had their adventures such as 25034 & 25175 on September 21st working the chartered 'Landore Lodger' Bolton - Swindon Works - Swansea special, performing faultlessly on all legs of the 517 mile trip. The railtour had originally been organised without a request for specific motive power, it was only in the final few days prior to the tour that the possibility that Class 25's might be used. The route was Bolton - Manchester - Crewe - Birmingham - Didcot curve - Swindon (into/outof the Works) - Swansea - Central Wales line - Crewe - Bolton. This railtour coincided with an Open Day at Landore depot, where by chance 25213 was one of the locomotives on display.

On September 28th 1985 a Nelson - Carlisle steam special was assisted between Upperby Junction & Carlisle by 25034 & 25181.

The lunch time Severn Tunnel Jct – Mossend freight on October 24th required assistance at Abergavenny from 25034 after 25145 failed there. After spending four days dumped at Hereford 25145 returned to Severn Tunnel Jct in a local freight behind 25034, before being taken to Crewe in an overnight freight!

25034 is eastbound through Abergele with a short freight during the afternoon of December 8th 1985. For 25034 there is one more year left in service, withdrawal coming during December 1986.
Photograph courtesy John Powell.

1986
Noted Bescot yard January 11th 1986.

Graeme Brown recalls a memorable trip on February 14th which resulted in haulage from 25034. Graeme was travelling from Dundee to Cheltenham, hoping to use the Aberdeen - Penzance service. Unfortunately its locomotive, 47637 had failed just south of Aberdeen, possibly a victim of the extreme cold at this time. So the Dundee - Edinburgh trip was made behind 27049 as far as Haymarket where the late running Penzance express was picked up, now with 47417 in charge and running about an hour late. 47524 made the short hop to Carstairs where 85004 was waiting to take over. The Glasgow portion of this train had long since left. The journey south was quiet until news reached the train that a broken rail in the Warrington area was going to create a detour from Preston.

At Preston the electric remained on the train but now with 25034 in command. There was no heat from the Class 25 so the coaches soon took on quite a chill. We were diverted via Manchester Victoria, this was before the Windsor Link had opened so it was up Miles Platting, only just making the climb, then it was a right at OAGB junction, over to Denton Junction and back on to the mainline at Heaton Norris. At Stockport the electric came back to life but 25034 remained on the train, it was a sprightly run to Crewe, at least there was heat now. 25034 came off at Crewe, 85004 roared on to Birmingham New Street where 47540 took over for the remainder of the journey to the West Country.

When 25032 was withdrawn on March 10th the honour of being the elder statesman of the class was passed to 25034.

Services from Stanlow continued to see paired Class 25’s, the Leeds tankers had 25034 & 25190 and 25201 & 25202 on April 18th

On May 30th 1986 the 06.55 Preston - Glasgow Central failed at Dumfries, 25034 took the service forward to Glasgow Central and returned with the 13.45 Glasgow Central - Carlisle.

July 3rd 1986 noted at Bristol Bath Road. July 28th 1986 again noted at Bristol Bath Road, now attached to 25191 after its recent trip over Southern metals on a railtour which had doomed 25181.

The 06.30 Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury was worked by 25034 on July 25th 1986. Later that day the 07.10 Manchester Piccadilly - Cardiff failed at Prees, 25034 worked the train through to Cardiff.

25034 arrived at Hereford on September 17th hauling a long rake of empties, and noted there the next day.

25034's last recorded passenger working took place on October 19th 1986 working the 09.35 Edinburgh - Poole from Edinburgh to Glasgow Central.

25034 was withdrawn on December 22nd and later stored at Basford Hall.

Well if you like detail, here's an interesting view of parts of bogie and side of 25034. The painted 89C shedplate is for Machynlleth which included Aberystwyth as a sub-shed. The number was also stencilled on both cabfronts. There was also minor damage to the No.2 drivers cabside.
Photograph courtesy Paul Corrie.

1987
On May 29th 25034/037/095 & 25190 moved from Basford Hall to Vic Berry's Leicester yard.

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