The sixteen year five month career of D5277/25127 was spent allocated to a small number of London Midland Region depots.
Built: BR Derby Locomotive Works.
Boiler room grilles sheeted over.
Final exhaust roof panel: raised, square (previously raised 'L' shaped).
Time between last Classified repair and withdrawal: ?? months.
Time between withdrawal and scrapping: 32 months.
Allocations
D5277 was new to Nottingham (16A) on June 11th 1964. Further transfers were:
July 1964 to Derby (16C).
July 1964 to Trafford Park (9E).
March 1968 to Longsight (9A).
June 1968 to Manchester Division (D09).
April 1972 to Nottingham Division (D16).
May 1973 to Toton.
Withdrawn November 2nd 1980.
Renumbered March 1st 1974.
25127 was the 60th Class 25 withdrawn, one of seventeen retired during November 1980 and the 2nd to be retired of the original batch of Class 25s allocated to handle the ICI Tunstead - Northwich limestone trains.
After withdrawal 25127 was moved to Swindon Works on January 14th 1981 and broken up there by the end of June 1983.
Works Visits
Works visits (records incomplete).
Noted Derby Works October 1964.
Noted Derby Works November & December 1975 (boiler room grills sheeted over?).
Noted Derby Works December 1979 (N6 repairs).
Highlights
1964
During March D5255 & D7586 were transferred to Trafford Park (9E), presumably to be trialled on the limestone workings. D5255 was transferred back to Toton during April, but D7586 remained allocated to Trafford Park until January 1965 when it was briefly reallocated to the Nottingham Division, but returned to Trafford Park the same month. With the testing completed the decision was made to utilise the Sulzer Type 2s on the limestone trains. To accomplish this seven Type 2s would be allocated to Trafford Park (9E) shed. All the locomotives selected were virtually brand new and had been on allocation to Toton (D16) after delivery from the workshops. D7586 which had been one of the locomotives used in the trials remained at Trafford Park, perhaps an odd choice since the locomotive was boiler equipped. The remainder were D5274 - D5279 and arrived during June & July.
On July 5th stabled at Toton were D5184, D5185, D5234, D5243, D5244, D5245, D5247, D5249, D5251, D5257, D5262, D5263, D5268, D5277, D5279, D5280 & D5281.
1965
On April 24th D5277 was noted on hoppers at Northwich.
On June 27th a Derby (?) - Llandudno Town day excursion was worked out & back (?) by D5277 & D5279.
1966
On Sunday May 22nd D5274, D5275, D5277, D5279 & D7586 were stabled at Trafford Park.
1967
On the afternoon of July 29th D5277 was noted at Manchester Piccadilly with the passenger service from Yarmouth (1M99)?
On the evening of November 27th D5277 was at Manchester Piccadilly with an Up parcels.
1968
On the morning of December 14th 5277 was noted at Hartford Junction with ICI hoppers.
1970
On the evening of June 14th 5277 & 5041 were light engines at Stafford.
1971
On October 23rd 5277 was stabled at Carlisle New Yard.
1972
5277 was the Manchester Victoria banker (T43) on April 4th.
An unusual visitor to the London area were 5277 & 5212. Having arrived on March 15th with empty coaching stock from the north, they were borrowed by Willesden for a couple of days before returning north with a freight.
On June 6th 5277 was noted arriving at Carlisle Kingmoor with mixed freight 8M18.
On Saturday June 10th an excursion from St Pancras to York with 1856 (1Z58) included the following observations:
Bedford: 5222, 4139
Wellingborough: 4, 3863, 3864, 7514
Kettering: 7563
Leicester: 3057, 5243, 5246, 7516, 7520, 7522, 7588, 7616
Toton: 3514, 3852, 5224, 5260, 7560
Chesterfield: 5282, 7567, in scrap yard D2383-cond & SR 3107-cond
York Station (by Class):
11, 50, 99, 127, 130, 131, 139, 140, 153, 182
251, 274, 275, 284, 346, 352, 353
1102, 1107, 1110, 1503, 1505, 1531, 1551, 1593, 1596, 1712, 1768, 1792, 1856, 1869, 1904, 1936, 1989, 1997
3874
5027 Aberystwyth-York mail? (to depot)
5241, 7564 (both to depot)
5520, 5546, 5553, 5583, 5599, 5658
6700, 6716, 6754, 6782, 6822
8185, 8191
9000, 9001, 9003, 9005, 9008, 9014, 9017, 9019
Toton: 3400, 3514, 3854, 5173
Leicester depot: 3057, 3786, 5231, 5245, 5277, 7522, 7561
Leicester station: 7520
Wellingborough: 3786, 7516
Bedford: 4139, 5222, 7604.
The cross-London workings still featured Class 25s on the trips to Hither Green. On June 20th & 21st 5277 & 7568 were noted on the Toton - Southfleet coal train.
The summer dated roundtrip Nottingham - Llandudno Town was worked by 5277 on June 24th.
A visit to a number of north London locations on August 15th included the following observations:
Cricklewood: 7558
St Pancras: 5212, 5222, 7567
Willesden: 7525, 7596, 7658
Old Oak Bridge: 5218, 7560, 7661, 7665, 7666
Willesden Junction High Level: 5218, 7526, 7586, 7662, 7665
Old Oak Pill Box: 5186, 7522, 7533, 7660
Cambridge Street: 5218, 5277, 7662, 7664
A trip from Luton to Derby for a visit to the Locomotive Works Open Day on August 26th includes the following observations:
Luton: 5243
Bedford: 3859, 4139
Wellingborough: 35, 3863, 3864
Kettering: 57, 5277
Leicester: 10, 43, 38, 73, 85, 102, 118, 130, 1860, 1989, 3776, 3862, 3866, 5233, 5235
Derby Tech Center, London Road curve, station area (morning): 18, 21, 27, 33, 47, 67, 91, 95, 98, 104, 169, 177, 151, 160,
1755, 1769, 1942, 1960, 2130, 2387, 3082, 3186, 3351, 3569, 3572, 3577, 3771, 3792, 5232, 5241, 5270, 5282,
5567, 5570, 5618, 5626, 6869, 7615, 7639, 8047, 8072, 8156
Derby Tech Center, London Road curve, station area (afternoon): 14, 22, 26, 56, 58, 63, 68, 79, 90, 101, 109, 110, 117, 133, 139, 173,
1579, 1732, 1738, 1583, 1588, 1727, 8197, 1583, 1588, 5234, 5236, 5242, 5250, 5276, 5279, 5280, 5281, 5618, 6750, 7610,
Leicester: 52, 73, 102, 5224, 5233, 5235, 5243, 5248, 5267, 5284, 7561
Market Harborough: 1860
Wellingborough: 99, 130, 5241, 7614, 7615, 7649
Bedford: 52, 83, 3859, 4139
Luton: 7523, 6590 6M54.
1974
On June 22nd 25127 & 25081 worked a roundtrip Leicester - Skegness service. On August 31st a Derby - Skegness roundtrip was worked by sisters 25127 & 25126.
1975
At noon on January 3rd 25127 & 25264 were noted coupled together at Exeter stabling point.
On July 12th the Derby - Norwich - Yarmouth - Norwich - Walsall diagram was worked by 25127 & 25252.
The 17.00 Derby - Matlock and the 17.50 Matlock - Derby were worked by 25127 on August 19th.
On September 1st 25274 & 25127 worked the Spring Vale - Wellingborough coke/coal empties (8F05).
On September 3rd 25127 was at Croft with the 6E10 loaded ballast.
The 08.00 Walsall - Yarmouth to Norwich and the return 14.15 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich were worked by 25127 & 25263 on September 6th.
On December 12th 25127 made a test run from Derby Works.
The snag sheet for December 12th recorded:
Recordings made from the No.2 cab.
| 25127; December 12th 1975; 1C41 | |||||
| Load | Speed | Amps | Volts | Notes | Other |
| 1 | 27 | 900 | - | - | - | 2 | 34 | 900 | - | - | - | 3 | 41 | 950 | - | - | - | 4 | 50 | 950 | - | - | - | 5 | 63 | 970 | - | - | - | 6 | 70 | 975 | - | - | - |
B side crankcase door seal
No.4 rocker cover seal
End cover on engine oil filter
Traction motor interlocks
OVR pin
Load regulator cover.
1976
During the morning of March 6th 25127 was noted westbound through Featherstone with one coal hopper and a brakevan. The locomotive would return eastbound a short while later.
On the afternoon of May 27th 25127 was stabled at York.
On May 21st 25127 was light engine at Nottingham.
On July 13th 25127 & 25134 were eastbound light engines at Water Orton.
On July 31st a roundtrip Leicester - Skegness was worked by 25127 & 25132. The 10.07 Aberystwyth - Euston on August 7th was worked to Wolverhampton (?) by 25127 & 25090 (see image below).
On the afternoon of November 20th 25127, 25133, 25167, 25211, 25214, 25218, 25248 & 25269 were noted at Toton.
1977
On the afternoon of February 16th 25060, 25122 & 25127 were stabled at York.
On February 19th stabled at Cockshute were 24035, 24091, 25122, 25127, 25164, 25166, 25292 & 25306.
25127 was light engine at Wakefield Kirkgate on March 30th.
On May 6th 25127 was southbound at Leicester with a train of pipes.
On the afternoon of May 26th 25127 was stabled at Saltley.
On June 11th the 08.52 Leicester - Skegness and the 12.35 Skegness - Leicester were worked by 25127 & 25126.
25070, 25127 & 25275 were stabled at Goucester on July 23rd.
25127 was noted at Springs Branch on August 11th. The last days of August proved to be busy for 25127 & 25107. On August 27th they worked Derby - Norwich - Yarmouth - Norwich - Derby diagram. The following days produced roundtrips to Skegness, from Leicester on 28th, 30th & 31st and from Derby (relief) on 29th.
On the morning of September 1st 25127 was stabled at York and also noted at Rotherham.
1978
On April 29th 25127 & 25152 worked a Mountsorrel - Trowse stone train. They were noted the next day stabled at Norwich.
On May 9th 25127 was northbound at Peterborough with empty ballast wagons.
A lengthy outing took place on June 3rd with 25127 working the 16.39 Leeds - Bristol Temple Meads throughout. On June 10th the 08.00 Walsall - Yarmouth to Norwich and the 14.15 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich were worked by 25127 & 25136. The following day (11th) the same pair worked a roundtrip Leicester - Skegness service.
On July 15th the Nottingham - Derby portion of the Llandudno Town service was worked in both directions by 25127, with 25301 working the service west of Derby.
On the afternoon of August 2nd 25127 was noted at Derby. This day things were not going well on the NE/SW route, at Derby the 15.25 to Bristol was sixty minutes late, the 16.23 to Plymouth fifty minutes late and the 16.45 to Newcastle seventy minutes late.
On October 23rd 25127 & 25101 were noted at Kingsbury Junction with a loaded coal train.
1979
On March 27th 25127 was at Toton receieving attention to its bogies.
On April 2nd 25127 was noted at Didcot with empty carflats.
On April 10th 25127 worked the 15.52 Bristol - Plymouth vans.
On the late afternoon of June 2nd 25154, 25184 & 25127 were stabled at Bristol Bath Road.
25127 was active on the Crewe - Cardiff passenger services on June 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st & 22nd, on all five days working the 05.35 Cardiff - Crewe & 10.00 Crewe - Cardiff, on four days it worked the 15.08 Cardiff - Crewe and the 19.30 Crewe - Cardiff. On June 22nd 37192 took over the 15.08 Cardiff - Crewe and 25221 finished the diagram on the 19.30 Crewe - Cardiff.
On July 16th 25127 was noted at Peterborough.
On July 17th 25127 worked the 17.10 Cardiff - Crewe.
The relief 09.53 Nottingham - Skegness and the relief 18.15 Skegness - Nottingham were worked by 25127 & 25125 on August 1st. On the morning of August 17th 25127 was noted at Leicester depot. The Derby - Norwich - Yarmouth - Norwich - Walsall diagram was worked by 25127 & 25136 on August 18th. A week later on August 24th the 17.05 Poole - Nottingham was worked forward from Birmingham New Street by 25127 (to at least Derby?). On August 28th 25127 was northbound at Derby with a permanent way train. At about 5pm on August 31st 25118, 25127, 25133, 25213 were stabled at Leicester shed.
On September 5th 25127 was light engine at Peterborough.
On October 1st 25127 was on Derby fuelling point.
The Mondays Only 05.49 Toton - Eastleigh freight was worked by 25127 & 25074 on October 25th, the next day (26th) this pair were westbound off the Nuneaton line at Water Orton.
On the late afternoon of October 28th 25127 was at Bristol Bath Road.
On the morning of October 30th 25127 was stabled at York.
1980
Observations on the Midland mainline on the afternoon of February 10th included:
25117 Cricklewood (13.40)
25067 permanent way train Radlett (13.50)
25135 permanent way train Harpenden (14.00)
25179 permanent way train Harpenden (14.00)
25151 permanent way train Luton (14.15)
25127 permanent way train Luton (14.15)
25150 ballast train Leagrave (14.20)
25192 permanent way train Leagrave (14.20)
25154 & 25214 ballast train Flitwick (14.30)
25250 Bedford stabling point (14.45)
25270 permanent way train Wellingborough (15.05)
Observations on the Midland mainline on March 8th included:
25212 & 25129 Leicester shed (09.45)
25099, 25113, 25214, 25251 Bedford stabling point (08.45)
25210 with a diesel multiple unit on the 11.50 Leicester - Peterborough
25127 Leicester shed (11.45)
25175 Leicester - southbound oil (11.45)
On the afternoon of March 14th 25127 was stabled at York.
In the early afternoon of March 28th was noted in a siding at Dringhouses.
On the afternoon of April 25th 25127 was noted departing Derby with a freight train of mostly wagon parts.
On April 26th 25127 was noted at Nottingham before departing with some vans at about 1.30pm.
Although 1980 ws the last year in service for 25127, it was able to obtain a good selection of passenger workings. On May 24th 25127 worked the 07.35 Nottingham - Llandudno Town and the 13.00 Llandudno Town - Nottingham. A week later on May 31st 25127 & 25219 worked the 08.02 Walsall - Yarmouth to Norwich returning with the 14.15 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich. The same pair worked a Leicester - Skegness roundtrip on June 1st, and the 10.05 Derby - St. Pancras on June 2nd, they were later noted at Cricklewood with the empty coaching stock before going to the depot for stabling.
On July 12th the 08.35 Derby - Yarmouth to Norwich and the return 14.15 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich (not the normal diagram) were worked by 25127 & 25170. The next day (13th) the same pair worked the 09.00 Derby - Skegness and the return 18.15 Skegness - Derby.
The Derby - Norwich - Yarmouth - Norwich - Walsall diagram was worked by 25127 & 25137 on August 16th. Four days later on August 20th Wolverhampton - Bridlington roundtrip (?) day excursion was worked by 25127 & 25121, a total of 380 passenger miles if the Class 25s worked throughout. This is believed to be 25127's last passenger working.
On October 3rd electric multiple unit 507012 was taken from Hall Road to the Derby Research Center by 25127.
25127 was withdrawn on November 2nd 1980.
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Not all known passenger workings are recorded on this page.
Page added May 26th 2014.
Last updated July 4th 2025.