D7527, 7527, 25177
D7527, 7527, 25177

Its February 27th 1979 and ex-works 25177 drifts south near the site of Nottingham Road station, Derby. Three years later the shiny paint would be dulled, rust would be creeping round the sheet metal joints on the cab, and the end for 25177 would be many miles from Derby.

The seventeen year ten month career of D7527/25177 saw allocations to a few London Midland Region depots.

Built: BR Derby Locomotive Works.
Boiler room grilles sheeted over (1980).
Time between last Classified repair and withdrawal: 45 months.
Time between withdrawal & scrapping: 41 months.


D7527 was new to Nottingham Division (D16) on January 30th 1965. Further transfers were:

October 1971 to London Division (D01).
May 1973 to Willesden.
June 1975 to Cricklewood.
Withdrawn November 28th 1982.

Renumbered March 30th 1974.

25177 was the 146th Class 25 withdrawn, one of twelve retired during November 1982, including sisters 25179 & 25180.

After withdrawal 25177 reached Stratford by December 1982 and would be used in rerailing exercises at the Stratford Open Day on July 9th 1983. It was moved to Temple Mills Yard for further rerailing exercises on March 26th 1984. It returned to Stratford then was taken again to Temple Mills on June 5th 1984 for breakdown tests, 25177 returned to Stratford the same day and then moved on to Reading, accompanying it were 08550 & 40092 as the 9Z28 Stratford - Swindon, reaching Swindon Works by June 14th 1984. 25177 was broken up by the first week of May 1986.

Works Visits

Works visits (records incomplete).

Noted Derby Works August 1968.
Noted Derby Works January & February 1973.
Noted Derby Works January - February 1979 (Classified).
Noted Derby Works February - May 1980 (collision repairs).


D7527 was delivered from Derby Works to the Midland Lines during January 1965 as part of the large fleet used to remove steam from the Midland Lines northwards.

Condition April: two-tone green livery with full yellow cabfronts, 'D' prefix present.

On the afternoon of June 12th 7527 & 7508 were noted at Small Heath with an up freight.

On July 4th 7527 worked the 08.30 Derby - Norwich.

On August 7th 7527 worked the 14.20 Yarmouth - Derby between Yarmouth & Norwich.

On October 27th 7527 was stabled at Willesden.

On February 23rd 7527 made a test run from Derby Works.

The snag sheet for February 23rd recorded:

7527; February 23rd 1973; time 1.50
Load Speed Amps Volts Notes Other
1 - - - - -
2 - - - - -
3 42 - 820 - -
4 50 - 820 - -
5 60 - 810 - -
6 67 - 800 - -

Load Speed Amps Volts Notes Other
1 - - - - -
2 34 - 810 - -
3 41 - 805 - -
4 47 - 800 - -
5 - - 795 - -
6 63 - 785 - -

A Bank radiator tank empty
A Bank crankcase door
Rocker cover leak: 1, 3 & 4
FDR lift coil renew?
Circlip to fit on? spindle on No.2 DL.

On March 6th 25137, 25177 & 25321 were light engines at Carlisle station.

On Thursday August 3rd 25177 worked the 12.25 Willesden to Norwood and (presumably) the 14.10 Norwood - Willesden.

On Tuesday October 10th 25177 worked the 09.55 Willesden to Norwood and (presumably) the 12.00 Norwood - Willesden.

25071 & 25177 were stabled at Bedford at lunchtime on October 28th.

25177 received a general repair during January & February at Derby. A maintenance dispute brought many strangers into South Wales including a number of Class 25's. So noted towards the end of March were 25294 on the 14.46 Great Bridge - Llandeilo flats (21st), 25177 on oil tanks to Llandarcy oil terminal (April 2nd) as well as a number of light engine movements west of Cardiff, 25256 & 25312 (10th) and 25184 & 25194 (12th).

On March 24th the 13.35 Newcastle - Swansea was noted arriving at Cardiff behind 25177, it was replaced here by 47243. 25177 was stabled at Cardiff Canton on March 25th. On March 29th the 15.07 Plymouth - Manchester Piccadilly was worked between Gloucester & Birmingham New Street by 25177.

A maintenance dispute led to some unusual workings, so noted on April 2nd was 25177 with oil tanks for Llandarcy terminal. 25177 was stabled at Coventry on April 6th & 7th.

On June 8th the 15.15 Plymouth - Manchester Piccadilly was worked between Gloucester & Birmingham New Street by 25177. On June 30th the 08.52 Leicester - Skegness and the 12.32 Skegness - Leicester were worked by 25177 & 25214.

On September 1st the 07.30 Nottingham - Llandudno Town was worked forward from Derby by 25177 (having replaced 31253) and worked the return 13.00 Llandudno Town - Nottingham to Derby where 31253 took over. On September 5th 25177 & 25158 worked the 09.28 Derby - Skegness and the 18.39 Skegness - Derby.

25177 was noted at Birkenhead Mollington Street on September 23rd.

25177 was back at Derby from February to May, undergoing collision repairs, (it left the Works in October??).

25177 was noted at Reddish on March 3rd.

A Liverpool - York special hauled by 850 'Lord Nelson' required the assistance of 25177 on Miles Platting bank on March 11th. 25177 was noted light engine at Manchester Victoria on March 14th.

In the early hours of April 8th a train of ammonia tanks partially derailed west of Hadfield station, with the ninth tank hitting the platform and becoming derailed. Two breakdown trains attended, 37128 from Tinsley and 25177 from Longsight (?), whilst 47214 arrived with empty tanks to transfer ammonia from the damaged vehicles. On the morning of April 25th 25177 was noted at Nuneaton with an up permanent way train.

25177 was noted at Stoke on Trent on May 28th.

On June 14th a returning day excursion from Weymouth to Shrewsbury failed at Banbury behind 47353, 25177 & 25071 removed the Class 47 and worked the train forward to Shrewsbury.

On July 11th the 08.35 Derby - Yarmouth to Norwich and the return 14.20 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich were worked by 25177 & 25220. On July 14th 25177 & 25158 worked the 09.28 Derby - Skegness and the return 18.40 Skegness - Derby. Two days later (16th) the same pair worked the 08.46 Burton on Trent - Skegness and the return 18.40 Skegness - Burton on Trent. On July 18th the 08.35 Derby - Yarmouth to Norwich and the return 14.20 Yarmouth - Derby from Norwich were worked by 25177 & 25158.

On July 23rd Derby turned out 25177 & 25158 to work the 10.05 service to St Pancras, both were replaced at Bedford by a Peak after 25158 failed.

The 16.36 Birmingham New Street - Norwich failed at Leicester behind 45150 on September 28th, the Class 45 was removed and 25177 worked the train to Norwich.

A heavily loaded 15.02 Bristol - Manchester parcels on October 9th used 25177 & 25179.

On the afternoon of November 27th 25177 was stabled at York.

On February 2nd 25177 was eastbound at Guide Bridge with a short engineers train.

25177 was stabled at Cockshute on February 6th.

On the afternoon of March 18th 25177 was stabled at York.

On March 19th 25177 was noted at Manchester Victoria banking pilot.

On the morning of March 20th 25069, 25177 & 25282 were parked on London Road curve, Derby.

On May 1st 25177 was noted at Chester. On May 3rd a Nelson - Llandudno Town day excursion was worked forward from Chester by 25177, and handled the entire return leg.

On July 2nd 25177 worked the 09.45 Manchester Victoria - Blackpool North. The next day (3rd) 25177 went for a romp across Lancashire and Yorkshire, working the 06.50 Blackpool North - Manchester Victoria, followed by the 08.40 Manchester Victoria - Scarborough, the return working was covered by 40014. This was possibly 25177's last passenger working. 25177 was stabled at York on July 19th.

On August 5th 25177 was at Sheffield Midland with wagons of scrap for the Tinsley area.

Photograph courtesy Danny Preston, collection of Neil Johnson.
25177 at Manchester Victoria on August 19th 1982.

25177's career came to an end when it was retired in November, quickly being moved to Stratford for rerailing exercises, other Type 2's present here were condemned 25214 and ETH vehicle 24142.

March would see 25177 & 40092 used in rerailing exercises at Temple Mills yard after which it would languish at Stratford, prior to dispatch to Swindon.

Photograph courtesy Gary Thornton
The No.1 end of 25177 at Stratford on July 9th 1983 in the middle of a rerailing exercise put on for the Open Day visitors.

Photograph courtesy Paul O'Garra
No.2 end of 25177 at Stratford on July 9th 1983 in the middle of a rerailing exercise put on for the Open Day visitors.

Photograph courtesy Paul O'Garra
The Stratford brakedown crane returns 25177 to an upright position.

Its July 9th 1983 and the engineers at Stratford Open Day have 25177 on display as an example of how rolling stock is rerailed/lifted back on to the tracks. With the locomotive on its side there is ample opportunity to explore parts of the locomotive not normally visible. One traction motor is missing.

Distinguishing Features
Non BIS side: scrape along side from the plated over hand/footholds back towards the No.2 cab, about two feet above the frame: July 1982.

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Page added October 16th 2001.
Last updated June 27th 2022.

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