D5247, 5247, 25097
D5247, 5247, 25097

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25097, date & location unknown, but possibly Speke Junction.

The career of D5247/25097 lasted two months short of twenty years allocated almost entirely to London Midland depots apart from a brief spell on the Southern Region.

Built: BR Derby Locomotive Works.
Dual brake equipped (December 1977).
Time between last Classified repair and withdrawal: 70 months.
Time between withdrawal & scrapping: 14 months.


D5247 was new to Nottingham (16A) on January 31st 1964. Further transfers were:

September 1964 to Southern Region.
December 1964 Toton (16A).
January 1965 to London Midland Midland Lines LMML.
April 1965 to Saltley (2E).
April 1966 to Birmingham Division (D02).
April 1966 to London Midland Midland Lines LMML.
June 1968 to Nottingham Division (D16).
July 1968 to Liverpool Division (D08).
June 1969 to Nottingham Division (D16).
June 1972 to Manchester Division (D09).
May 1973 to Longsight.
November 1980 to Springs Branch.
November 1981 to Kingmoor.
February 1982 to Toton.
Withdrawn November 13th 1983.

Renumbered May 1974.

25097 was the 201st Class 25 withdrawn, one of two retired during November 1983.

After withdrawal 25097 was stored at Bescot, then moved to Swindon Works on February 10th 1984 and scrapped there by the middle of January 1985.

Final movement: 08153 (Chester), 25186/25308 (Crewe), 25097 (Bescot), as the Chester Crewe - Bescot - Swindon on February 10th 1984.

Photograph courtesy Roger Geach
25097 & 27028 at Swindon Works on December 11th 1984.

Works Visits

Works visits (records incomplete).

Noted Derby Works March 1966.
Noted Crewe Works February 1968 (ex works).
Noted Derby Works November 1969.
Noted Derby Works February 1970.
Noted Derby Works November 1976 & January 1977 (Classified).


On March 17th D5236 & D5247 were light engines at Derby.

On July 5th stabled at Toton were D5184, D5185, D5234, D5243, D5244, D5245, D5247, D5249, D5251, D5257, D5262, D5263, D5268, D5277, D5279, D5280 & D5281.

An early frequent passenger working for pairs of Type 2s for a short time was the 06.35 Birmingham New Street - Bradford to Leeds, on June 29th 1965 worked by 5247 & 5246.

On August 26th 5247 & 5225 worked the summe dated Nottingham - Llandudno Town round trip.

D5247 was stabled at Saltley on September 3rd (condition: orginal exhaust location).

On June 1st 5247 & 5193 worked the summe dated Nottingham - Llandudno Town round trip.

Condition August: two-tone green livery with full yellow ends, 'D' prefixes present, engine exhaust in original location.

On November 28th 7514 & 5247 were noted at Rugby with a freight.

On the morning of June 11th 5247 & 7501 were noted at Crewe with an Up passenger service 1D06 (off the Chester line), they were replaced by Class 40 No.214.

Condition June: two-tone green with full yellow ends.

On December 18th 1971 5247 & 7647 were on rescue duty at Wellingborough when 91 working the 13.30 St. Pancras - Nottingham failed, the Type 2s taking the train on to Nottingham.

5247 was the Manchester Victoria banker (T43) on September 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 25th & 27th.

5247 was the Manchester Victoria banker (T43) on October 4th. At about 7am on October 12th 5247 was noted passing Manchester Victoria with an up van train (5J83).

At about 6pm on June 12th 5247 was noted passing Miles Platting with an up freight (9T47). 5247 was on empty coaching stock duty at Manchester Piccadilly on June 15th.

On June 16th 5247 & 5204 worked the 1E34 09.20 Manchester Piccadilly - Yarmouth to Lincoln Central, they did not return with the balancing working.

5247 was the Manchester Victoria banker (T42) on August 6th, 7th & 8th.

On August 11th 5247 & 5255 worked the 1E34 09.20 Manchester Piccadilly - Yarmouth to Lincoln Central, returning from there with the 1M74 09.28 Yarmouth - Manchester Piccadilly.

5247 was the Manchester Victoria banker (T42) on January 4th.

On July 20th 25097 & 25303 worked the 09.19 Manchester Piccadilly - Yarmouth as far as Lincoln Central, returning with the 09.15 ex-Yarmouth.

25097 worked a Nottingham - Lincoln parcels on August 15th.

On October 9th 25097 was eastbound at Buxworth with empty ICI limestone hoppers.

On December 8th 25097 was stabled at Saltley.

25097 was noted at Manchester Victoria on the morning of January 17th. On January 20th 25097 was noted passing Windsor Bridge (Manchester). On January 24th 25097 was noted at Manchester Victoria with the 5J48. On January 27th 25097 was noted at Manchester Victoria.

On March 5th 25097 was noted at Manchester Victoria.

On March 7th 25097 was westbound at Great Rocks with loaded ICI limestone wagons (6F42).

25097 was the Manchester Victoria banker (T42) on July 19th. At about 6pm on July 31st 25097 was noted at Ordsall Lane with an up freight.

At about 7am on August 1st 25097 was noted at Manchester Exchange with a down freight. At about 7am on August 13th 25097 was noted at Manchester Victoria with a down van train.

At about 10am on November 22nd 25097 was noted on shed at Exeter.

On April 21st 25097 was eastbound at Guide Bridge with a short freight.

25097 was stabled at Newton Heath on September 18th.

On December 10th 25097 made a test run from Derby Works.

The snag sheet for December 10th recorded:

No.2 end leading.

25097; December 10th 1976; 1C41
Load Speed Amps Volts Notes Other
1 28 800 - - -
2 38 - - - -
3 44 - - - -
4 52 - - - -
5 63 - - - -
6 70 950 - - -

Load Speed Amps Volts Notes Other
1 28 - - - -
2 35 860 - - -
3 41 900 - - -
4 48 950 - - -
5 60 960 - - -
6 66 970 - - -

Water pressure low 11 psi
Base of overspeed unit leak
F/FF flexible unions leak
No.6 Bicera leak
A side crankcase door fixing bolt oil leak?

On April 4th 25097 & 25141 were eastbound at Wakefield Kirkgate with a lengthy mixed freight.

On the morning of July 1st 25097 was stabled at York.

25097 & 25283 were noted on a 'Weekly Herald Special' at Barrow in Furness on October 1st.

On January 21st 25097 was stabled at Newton Heath.

Another rescue job took place on June 1st when the 18.05 Newcastle - Liverpool failed at Stalybridge behind 40050, 25097 dragged the train to Liverpool.

25097 was tabled at Peterborough on June 16th.

On July 13th 25097 dragged 40031 from Guide Bridge to Reddish for attention.

On July 23rd the 15.07 Plymouth - Manchester Piccadilly was hauled by 25097 between Gloucester and Birmingham New Street.

On the morning of August 1st 25097 & 25036 were stabled at York.

On August 8th 25097 worked the 12.22 Crewe - Cardiff and the 17.10 Cardiff - Crewe. On August 10th 25097 worked a Cardiff - Crewe service. The North Wales mainline saw a couple of trips, on August 23rd the 11.11 Manchester Victoria - Holyhead was followed by the 18.05 Holyhead - Euston to Crewe. And on August 26th 25097 again worked the 11.11 Manchester Victoria - Holyhead.

25097 was noted at Stockport with a train of oil tankers on September 15th.

On the morning of September 22nd & 26th 25097 was stabled at York.

25097 was eastbound light engine at Manchester Victoria on October 9th.

The early evening Tyne - Healey Mills freight was worked by 25097 on December 20th.

25097 was stabled at Northwich on December 26th.

On March 27th 25097 was at Toton with a mixed freight.

On June 12th & 13th 25097 was active on the Crewe - Cardiff services.

25089 & 25097 worked the morning Mountsorrell - Kennett stone train on June 13th (date conflicts with above working).

On July 15th 25097 was stabled at Northwich.

On the evening of November ?? 25097 & 25107 were noted at Crewe on up tanks. On the morning of November 3rd 25197 & 25097 were noted at Crewe with an up freight.

On April 19th 25097 was the Manchester Victoria banker.

On May 4th 25097 was recieving attention at Reddish.

25097 was the Manchester Victoria pilot on May 30th.

Three workings were handled on July 26th 1980, the 09.42 Llandudno Town - Manchester Victoria, the 14.40 Manchester Victoria - Llandudno Town and the 18.17 Llandudno Town - Manchester Victoria.

25097 was stabled at Springs Branch on December 7th.

On the afternoon of March 3rd 25097 was eastbound at Miles Platting with a freight.

On April 13th 25097 & 25181 worked the Aberystwyth - Stanlow fuel tanks.

On the morning of May 8th 25097 was stabled at York.

On May 9th 25097 as stabled at Toton.

On the afternoon of June 17th 25097 was stabled at York.

Only one passenger working was recorded in 1981, on June 27th 25097 worked the 13.15 Birmingham New Street - Norwich throughout.

On July 26th 25097 was stabled at Warrington Arpley.

At about 16.45 on August 13th 25097 arrived at Holbeck off the L07 turn. At about 11.45am 25097 returned to Holbeck off the K59 tripper.

25097 was stabled at March on August 16th.

25097 was noted at Toton depot on September 19th.

25097 was stabled at Bletchley on September 29th.

On a snowy December 12th 25097 & 47455 were noted at Shotton with an unidentified service.

During February 25097 received an 'E' examination at Tyseley.

25097 was stabled at Severn Tunnel Junction on April 9th.

On April 14th 25097 was noted arriving at Holyhead with empty container flats.

During 1982 the Cambrian line was visited at least three times, with 25072 on July 3rd working the 07.40 Euston - Aberystwyth from Shrewsbury, returning with the 14.00 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury. On the weekend of August 14th/15th 25097 & 25185 were very busy, on 14th they worked the 10.10 Euston - Aberystwyth from Birmingham New Street, returning with the 16.05 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury. The next day they worked the 08.45 Birmingham New Street - Aberystwyth from Shrewsbury, then the late afternoon Aberystwyth - Machynlleth round trip followed by the 18.15 Aberystwyth - Euston to Wolverhampton.

Forteviot accident victim 47522 arrived at Crewe on August 2nd behind 25097, other locomotives that had brought 47522 south were 27210 (to Falkland Jct) and 20179/191 (to Carlisle?).

On November 15th 25097 was eastbound at Chinley with empty ICI limestone hoppers for Tunstead.

On January 13th 25050 & 25097 were at Speke Junction.

On February 4th 25097 worked the Dean Lane - Parbold refuse train.

On February 5th 40188 & 25097 were the Manchester Victoria bankers.

On February 7th 25097 was the Manchester Victoria banker.

25097 was westbound at Attenborough with oil tanks on February 28th.

25097 was stabled at Guide Bridge on March 12th.

25097 was stabled at Newton Heath on March 13th.

25113 & 25097 were noted at Westbury on March 25th with the Ellesmere Port - Cranmore bitumen tanks.

On April 22nd 25097 was northbound at Crewe with a parcels train.

25097's last recorded passenger workings took place during 1983. On May 30th a roundtrip Derby - Skegness relief was worked with 25244.

25097 was southbound at Bishops Itchington on June 16th with empty carflats.

On July 11th 25097 worked the 21.44 Preston - Liverpool (ex 18.20 Glasgow), followed the next day by the 10.16 Barrow - Nottingham to Preston.

On August 3rd 25097 was noted at Harbury cutting with empty mineral wagons.

On August 24th 25097 was light engine at Peterborough.

25097 was withdrawn on November 13th 1983.

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Not all known passenger workings are recorded on this page.

Page added April 3rd 2013.
Last updated July 22nd 2022.

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