D7511, 7511, 25161
D7511, 7511, 25161

Photograph collection of webmaster.
A busy scene at Skipton, possibly December 1979, with 25161 & 25056 passing through the station.

The twenty year career of D7511/25161 started with seven years on the LMR followed by four years on the Western Region with the remainder back on the LMR.

Built: BR Derby Locomotive Works.
Boiler room grills sheeted over (1979).
Final exhaust roof panel: raised, square.
At time of withdrawal 25161 was the 8th remaining vacuum braked Class 25 in service.
Time between last Classified repair and withdrawal: 61 months.
Time between withdrawal & scrapping: 40 months.

Allocations

D7511 was new to Nottingham (16A) on November 17th 1964. Further transfers were:

November 1964 to Nottingham (16D).
April 1968 to London Midland (Midland) Lines (LMML).
June 1968 to Nottingham Division (D16).
January 1972 to Ebbw Junction (86B).
May 1974 to Cardiff.
May 1975 to Bristol.
January 1976 to Crewe.
Withdrawn November 28th 1984.

Renumbered April 1974.

25161 was the 226th Class 25 to be withdrawn.

After withdrawal 25161 was stored at Toton, then moved with 25193 & 25207 Toton – Gloucester – Swindon between February 21st - 25th 1985. On June 3rd 1987 it was moved to Cocklebury Yard following the closure of Swindon Works. On June 4th/5th 1987 25161, 25207/208, 25327 moved from Cocklebury Yard to Vic Berry, Leicester for scrapping. 25161 was placed in the stack by October 1987 and removed during March 1988 for cutting up which was completed by the last week of March 1988.

Works Visits

Works visits (records incomplete).

Noted Derby Works October 1971.
Noted Derby Works September 1977.
Noted Derby Works August - October 1979 (Intermediate repair).

Highlights

1965
On October 3rd D7511 was stabled at Holbeck along with other Class 25s: D5198, D5243 & D7528.

1966
On February 24th Burton shed was host to 44 locomotives, 21 steam (all in service) and 23 diesels comprised of D9, D135, D143, D1650, D2384, D3572, D3586, D3778, D4150, D5202, D5212, D5293, D7509, D7511, D7514, D7532, D7533, D7536, D7538, D7542, D7544, D7567 & D7594.

Noted at Derby station on March 24th between 4.30pm & 7pm were about fifty train and locomotive movements involving diesel Classes 08/25/37/45/46/47. Class 25s and steam locomotives included:
D7528 shunting empty coaching stock
48350 up freight - oil tanks
D7548 down light engine
D7561 down light engine
D5188 Nottingham?? - Derby passenger (2P92)
D5299 empty coaching stock for Derby - Bakewell service
D5190 empty coaching stock for Derby - Sheffield service
48143 down light engine
D7584 up freight (5G52)
45211 up light engine
D7511 & D7565 down freight (9T44)
48672 down light engine
D7505 up light engine
48103 down freight, later retiring to the shed
48646 up freight
92008 up light engine
48752 down freight
D7572 shunting empty coaching stock
76043 down light engine
D5206 up local
D5204 Sheffield - Derby passenger (2M76)
48214 down special freight
48177 down movement with brake van
45224 down light engine
D7502 up light engine
D5223 up local (2P53)
D68 & D7583 19.45 Derby - St Pancras
Amongst the locomotives on shed during this period included 12039, D2504, D7514, D7572, D7581, D7585, D7646, E6022 & 48064.

On the late morning of June 12th D7511 was at St Pancras with the coaching stock for the eight coach 11.45 St Pancras - Leeds, to be worked by D100.

On July 2nd the summer dated roundtrip Nottingham - Llandudno Town was worked by 7511 & 7561.

On Sunday September 18th D5285, D5294, D7500, D7511, D7513, D7514, D7517, D7525, D7529, D7543, D7544, D7552, D7558, D7564 & D7658.

1967
On the afternoon of August 3rd D5235, D7511, D7518, D7555, D7590, D7595 & D7597 were stabled at Derby.

On August 12th the summer dated roundtrip Nottingham - Llandudno Town was worked by 7511 & 7523.

1969
Condition April: two-tone green with full yellow ends.

Photograph collection of webmaster.
7511 awaits help after a minor collision, the location is believed to be at Nuneaton just prior to Midland Goods Loop Junction on the link line between the Midland at Abbey Junction and the LNWR Trent Valley line. Steve Harding recalls an incident in 1971, certainly involving a Class 25 and attending the local grammar school. If memory serves, the train was a trip transferring scrap from a merchant's yard at Abbey Junction to Trent Valley station. For whatever reason the locomotive had been uncoupled and ran light towards the Trent Valley, the driver stopping at the signal protecting the junction. Unfortunately, given the quite steep gradient, the brake van could not hold the train with the inevitable consequence. 7511 was noted at Derby Works during October 1971, perhaps it was there to make good this damage?

1971
Condition July: two-tone green livery with full yellow ends, exhaust in original position, three-rung bogie mounted footsteps, straight sided sandboxes, 'D' prefixes still present.

1973
On July 15th the return leg of a Wellington - Southend day excursion utilised 7511 & 5133 between Nuneaton and Wellington.

At about noon on October 27th 7511 & 7513 were noted passing Newport High Street on an up freight.

Photograph collection of webmaster.
7511 & 7513 at Cardiff? date unknown, but since 7511 was allocated to Ebbw Junction and Cardiff between January 1972 & May 1975 it is probably in this time period.

1974
On June 28th 25161 was noted at Exeter stabling point.

On June 29th 25161 ws noted at Exeter stabling point. It later worked the 6B27 17.05 Hemyock - Exeter milk (five tanks).

1975
On May 14th 25161 worked the 9B73 13.05 Exeter Riverside - Whimple freight and the 15.00 Whimple - Exeter Riverside.

On May 15th 25161 worked the 9B73 13.05 Exeter Riverside - Whimple freight and the 15.00 Whimple - Exeter Riverside.

The Battle of Britain LPS 'Atlantic Coast Express' railtour on May 17th utilised 1063 from Paddington - Exeter St Davids - Meldon Quarry - Crediton where 25224 & 25161 then covered the route Crediton - Eggesford - Barnstaple Junction - Torrington and the return to Exeter where 1063 was waiting to return the railtour to Paddington.

On May 20th 25161 worked the 5B73 13.05 Exeter Riverside - Whimple and the 9B73 15.00 Whimple - Exeter Riverside.

On May 21st 25161 worked the 6B73 15.00 Whimple - Exeter Riverside.

On May 23rd 25161 worked the 0B73 13.05 Exeter Riverside - Whimple (locomotive & brake van).

On May 24th 25161 worked the 6B70 11.07 Barnstaple - Exeter vans.

On May 26th 25161 worked the 15.58 Exeter St. Davids - Barnstaple and the 17.55 return to Exeter.

On May 27th 25161 was noted at Exeter stabling point.

On August 21st 25161 was noted at Exeter stabling point, later departing light engine in the Up direction.

On December 3rd 25161 worked the 2B84 20.15 Exeter St Davids - Newton Abbot.

At 2pm on December 20th 25157, 25160, 25161 & 25224 were noted on shed at Exeter.

1976
On June 30th 25041 + 25161 were noted at Woodchurch on iron ore empties.

On August 12th 25161 was noted light engine at Rhyl.

On September 4th the 10.07 Aberystwyth - Euston to Shrewsbury was worked by 25161 & 25057.

Condition November: Blanking plates still fitted.

On a damp December 19th 25161 was stabled at Birkenhead.

1977
25161 & 24047 were noted with empty sand hoppers between Leek Brook & Oakamoor during the morning of April 12th, later they returned to Stoke with loaded hoppers.

On May 29th 25161 was stabled at Llandudno Junction shed.

On the evening of August 26th 25161 was stabled at York.

On the afternoon of August 27th 25161 was stabled at Holbeck.

On the morning of September 19th 25161 was stabled at York.

1978
24035 & 25161 were noted light engines passing Gobowen headed for Shrewsbury on February 3rd.

On February 16th 25161 & 25257 were stabled at York.

On March 11th noted arriving at Crewe from the Stoke direction were 24047, 25162, 25161 & 25191.

It was a busy day for 25161 on May 26th, working the 13.30 Manchester Victoria - Llandudno Town from Chester afrer 24082 failed, followed by the 16.42 Llandudno Town - Crewe, the 20.30 Crewe - Bangor and the 22.45 Bangor - Llandudno Junction.

On August 26th the 10.40 Euston - Aberystwyth from Wolverhampton and the 16.10 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury were worked by 25161 & 25260.

On October 7th 25161 & 25195 came to the rescue of 6000 on the 'Marches Venturer' railtour after the King suffered a hotbox, taking the train forward to Chester. They would later work the Chester - Hereford return leg of 'The Fenman' railtour, replacing 7029.

1979
On the evening of May 24th 25161 was noted at Chester on a down freight.

On June 23rd the 04.15 Shrewsbury - Aberystwyth and the 10.09 Aberystwyth - Euston to Wolverhampton were worked by 25161 & 25272. The next day (24th) the same pair set out with the 08.45 Birmingham New Street - Barmouth but were failed at Bescot Yard and replaced by 25032 & 25120.

The 07.30 Nottingham - Llandudno Town and the return 13.00 Llandudno Town - Nottingham were worked by 25161 on July 7th.

Photograph by John Vaughn, collection of webmaster.
25161 under repair at Derby Locomotive Works on September 12th 1979.

On October 5th the 12.25 Birmingham New Street - Norwich was worked by 25161.

1980

25161 at Peak Forest on June 6th 1980.

On September 3rd a Leamington Spa - Aberystwyth day excursion was worked roundtrip by 25161 & 25125.

1981
25161 was stabled at Saltley on April 4th.

25161 was stabled at Saltley on May 23rd.

25161 was stabled at Guide Bridge at lunchtime on June 16th, and later noted heading west with a brakevan.

The 16.05 Aberystwyth - Wolverhampton was worked forward from Shrewsbury by 25161 & 25242 on July 4th. On July 7th 25224 & 25161 were noted at Rugby with Presflos.

On August 14th 25161 was noted at Crewe with a freight.

An unusual working for 25161 on September 27th was to assist single parcels DMU 55994 on the 03.35 Manchester Victoria - St Helens newspapers.

On a snowy December 11th 25164 & 25161 were noted light engines at Derby.

1982
On January 23rd 25161 was noted at March depot.

1983

Photograph courtesy Mark Cook.
25161 and brake van runs through Aylesbury station on January 12th 1983.

Most unusual visitors to Eastleigh on the morning of January 14th were 25161, 25167 & failed 25230. They had arrived on an unidentified freight and turned on the loop at the diesel depot to keep the failed 25230 at the rear of the trio as they headed northbound light engines.

25161 was stabled at Warrington Arpley on March 12th. On the evening of March 19th 25161 was noted southbound at Sheffield working a parcels service.

25161 was noted at Bescot on May 25th with a train of ballast wagons.

On June 3rd 1983 recently overhauled 08421 & 08631 were noted passing through Preston behind 25161 en-route from Crewe Works to Scotland. 25161 was stabled at Skipton on June 12th. 25161 & 25084 were stabled at Blackburn on June 25th.

On July 12th was noted southbound at Kearsley with a five coach parcels train. On July 16th 25161 & 25254 were noted eastbound through Chester with a freight. Three days later (19th) 25161 was noted southbound at Clifton with a one van parcels service.

The 08.01 Crewe - Cardiff and the 11.40 Cardiff - Crewe were worked by 25161 on August 15th. 25173 & 25161 were noted passing Crewe on August 25th with loaded BIS sand hoppers from Oakamoor to St. Helens.

On September 7th 25161 was noted at Bangor with hopper wagons, whilst on September 20th 25161 worked the 09.15 Bangor - York.

The 'Cheshire Cheeser' railtour on November 26th, from Plymouth to the Merseyside area, was worked between Liverpool & Warrington Arpley Junction by 25161 & 25042.

25161 & 25080 worked the 15.02 Manchester - Bristol parcels on December 13th. 25161 was stabled at Llandudno Junction on December 29th.

Photograph courtesy Danny Preston, collection Neil Johnson.
A fine, well lit study of 25161 at Speke Junction on February 15th 1983.

1984
25161 was noted at Manchester Victoria on February 18th.

25161 passed through Manchester Victoria on April 10th working a train of eastbound presflo cement hoppers.

On May 27th 25161 & 25229 top and tailed an empty track train from engineering work between Maghull & Ormskirk. On the evening of May 31st 25161 was noted at Chester with a parcels train.

On July 30th 25161 worked the 4V12 0922 Shrewsbury - Malago Vale sidings parcels train.

25161 was stabled at York on August 2nd. The 10.10 Euston - Aberystwyth from Wolverhampton and the 17.05 Aberystwyth - Shrewsbury were worked by 25161 & 25154 on August 4th. Four days later (August 8th) 25161 was at Bescot with a loaded ballast train. On August 11th 25161 & 25042 were stabled at Stoke on Trent station.

On September 27th 25161 was noted southbound at Bescot hauling 08691, 27028 & 27034 to Swindon Works, arriving at Swindon the next day, the Class 08 was to be overhauled, the Class 27s were for scrap.

On October 7th 25161 was stabled at Gloucester Horton Road.

Possibly the last passenger working for 25161 took place on November 2nd when a diesel multiple unit failure saw 25161 work the 18.20 Crewe - Lincoln St. Marks to Derby. 25161 was stabled at Severn Tunnel Junction on November 10th.

25161 was withdrawn on November 28th 1984.

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Not all passenger workings are recorded on this page.

Thanks to Steve Harding for identifying the location of the 7511 view.

Page added January 30th 2013.
Last updated May 5th 2023.

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